Put that way, why bother asking? But here’s the thing. I’ve been following the All-Time American Writer Tournament at American Pop Lit. Hemingway, Melville, Twain, and Fitzgerald are among the top seeds. It's a secret, but when the time comes, I plan to cheat to make sure Hemingway wins. The ONLY thing that can get in my way is the fact that these other three gave us iconic characters and Hemingway did not. I’m willing to side line Twain and Fitzgerald for now because their icons are required reading. But people who've never read Melville are at home with references to Captain Ahab and Bartleby. What are Fred Henry, Jake Barnes, and Robert Jordan missing?
This post is from my old blog and here are your comments (and mine):
Frank Marcopolos: Well, there's always Nick Adams, but he's in the short stories, which are what I'm into for my site, so my familiarity with that character is not a reliable gauge.
me: Frank, I don't know Nick Adams well enough. I was starting to speculate that the other Hem heroes are too admirable. In their situations I'd aspire to live up to their standards. What about Nick Adams?
Jim Ventola: Melville and Fitzgerald are moral writers. H. is amoral. Most Americans prefer the former. Besides, his style is artificial and mannered. Who talks like that, really? There is only so much you can do with reaction-formation, paranoia, and depression. Now obsession....THAT is an American virtue.
me: So, Jim, no help from you with my amoral obsession to see Hemingway named All-Time American Writer. I take it Melville and Fitzgerald are too moral for you. So, who do you like?
Jim Ventola: Actually I admire them all for different reasons. But H. was an SOB for sure. "A Moveable Feast" is great fun, but what a job he does there on poor Scotty, who was dead and could not defend himself. The French go for Poe (and Jerry Lewis). Now Longfellow has been much neglected of late even though he was the first American poet to be really popular. (And if one wanted a very decent human being to be the All-American writer, he would most certainly do.)
Frank Marcopolos: Well, Nick Adams is a kid, and the Nick Adams stories are generally about his being initiated into manhood by his father, for the most part. "Indian Camp" is great example of that.
As to style, Hemingway's short story "My Old Man" is a nice example of how he could create a story using a style he was not generally known for, and one where the influence of Ring Lardner is apparent.
I'm not too sure about the moral/amoral argument. For example, in "Indian Camp," Hemingway wrote a story about a boy's harsh cross-over into manhood. Is this moral or amoral? I think neither; it's just a great, instructive story, in my opinion.
me: I listened to Frank read Hemingway and Poe (click over to his website and enjoy!). My ear chooses Poe, but haven't yet heard "My Old Man."
As a character, Nick is upstaged by his father in "Indian Camp." Dubious manhood his father is trying to indoctrinate him into. Is Nick kind of an "everyman" (everyboy) coming to the adult world with innocence and reacting to what he finds?
Frank Marcopolos: Yes, I think he is, and Hemingway is giving us a look at the harsh adult faces of birth, death, sex, and cuckoldry all in one tight little story. Not to be overlooked is the role of the uncle in the story. In actuality, Nick is the star of the story--that is, the story is ABOUT him--because he is the one who changes from the beginning to the end of the story. The textual evidence for this is in how he handles the boat on the way to the camp, and then on the return. (Also - water, in this story and just about every story ever, is symbolic of a kind of birth, or re-birth.)
me: Frank, you've got me thinking about stories where the character with the most presence is not the main character: Oliver Twist, Treasure Island, Wizard of Oz. I'm thinking "Indian Camp" belongs on this list. And I was thinking the father was the upstager, but, now that you've pointed it out, the uncle will probably lurk the longest.
Frank Marcopolos: Well, "presence" can be a tricky thing. But the story is always about the person or people who change in some way during the course of the story.
Anonymous (I got this comment via email, so I'm not saying from whom, not that I think you'd mind. Feel free to claim it.): Here's another theory in answer to your question. H's characters are not iconic because HE was iconic. Papa was everywhere in the fifties--at the bullfights, in the nightclubs, shooting big game, fishing big fish... You could not miss his handsome face. He remains the iconic American ex-pat writer. And it is delicious that mr. macho man turned out (according to his posthumous book) to have been suitably feminine under the veneer.